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Why would anyone want to enter into negotiations for a settlement of anything, where he had to beg the other party to participate? Even more so, where he had to give real concessions to the other party just to sit at the same table.
Original piece is http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/09/the_significance_of_the_israel.html
The living styles of Jews living in Judea and Samaria is not the issue. Nor is my preparedness to serve to protect my fellow Jews. The issues are: (1) Arabs were ejected by Israel from lands now disputed in a defensive war; what Arabs get must be obtained through negotiations; (2) Israel has the same right as any other nation to compensation for attacks on it; (3) the Arabs residing in Judea and Samaria are not inconvenienced by the tiny amount of land on which Jews build; (4) a people - brand named Palestinian in 1965 - who are racist aggressors need to be kept in check until they join the 21st century; better battle with terrorists in Judea and Samaria than yield to their demands and subsequently battle them in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.
Posted by paul2 on 2010-09-21 06:02:24 GMT
Could the last opiner vouch to do reserve service with his kids and grand children in the West Bank, to protect and defend the lucky ones living in terraced , marble floored duplexes, during the cold winters and the hot summers? Who will continue to man the checkpoints, do guard duties, patrols, drive ambulances, man rescue helicopters, subsidize a host of unimaginable benefits unavailable to citizens of Israel proper? It is clear the many of the readers have no family or live in Israel, it is easier to offer lips" service and moral support, but when it comes to 30 days service in a check point, who will say: Send me?
Posted on 2010-09-17 05:10:46 GMT
I am not surprised that the previous commentator hid his or her identity. The rant against Jewish building in Judea and Samaria is contemptible. While it may be argued that Jewish control of all of Judea and Samaria is unrealistic because mohammedans squat there, it is plainly stupid to argue that Jews should retreat to what Abba Eban described as "Auschwitz borders". Israel must control the Jordan valley and the five routes that any invading army must take, as well as the Golan Heights. Further, one must not pretend that Israel did in fact offer to return to the"Green Line", but the Arabs declared no peace, no negotiations and no recognition after they were thoroughly trounced for their aggression in 1967. One does not need to be one of the knit kippah clan to assert Jewish rights in Judea and Samaria. (And one should not be a hater of people of faith either). In Efrat, Jews have merely rebuilt a town where Jews had lived pre-1948 and where its defenders were exterminated. A few other facts. The "tremendous" problem of "settlements", is on 1.7% of Judea and Samaria and is on unclaimed and uninhabited land. Moreover, the land the Arabs claim as "historic Palestine" the Jordanian termed "West Bank", was an area siezed by Jordan in an aggressive war. Funny how UNSC 242, which reiterates the unacceptability of acquiring territory by force, does not apply to Arabs, but is applied to Jews when land is gained in its own defence. To all nations, except the Jewish one compensation is paid for repelling aggression; Israel uniquely has to sue its aggressors for peace and is expected to yield to the demands of its vanquished aggressor. People and nations who support that topsy-turvy position of justice and practise with regard to no state other than Israel should be ashamed of themselves. But antisemites have no shame, have they?
Posted by paul2 on 2010-09-17 04:49:26 GMT
No matter how one looks at it, the entire policy on the settlements was not only potty but strictly speaking idiotic. It began with the phony Alon plan. An independence War general who was brought back from the cold after the 1967 war and was given a cabinet posting in which he "helped" to shape the battle against the fatah terrorists from Jordan and Nahal outposts along the rim facing the Jordan River. Sounds good as a military strategy but son it became a form of creating new settlements, the army will leave a "Camp" and settlers "Former Nahal" will take over. This half baked policy of capitulating to the ever increasing violent and extortionist believers, cost the country huge fortunes. Every ounce of fat was siphoned to bolster the infrastructure of the settlements. Suddenly, the less prosperous kippa wearers,live in style, overlooking marvelous views, good air, no crowding, suburban style, unavailable to most Israelis, all under the phony guise of "we were sent", we were "called". This entire history was turned on its head. The whole history has been so distorted and rewritten, yet the truth cannot be made up. This goofy, mindless expansion ruined the entire social fabric. The gap between the "settlers" and the residents of the "Green Lines" is even more acute. All one needs to do is travel to a place like Efrat and see the opulence in which many live, multilevel complexes, marble stones, nice roads, less crowded schools, IDF security, etc...What makes them, implants from Philadelphia or Baltimore more entitled to tax payer supported luxurious life style like this is beyond the comprehension of residents of Ashdod or Kirayt Shmona. Israel will pay for this folly over many generations. It is one thing to bite from the edges, it is another equation, trying to swallow the whole enchilada with all the poison that is built in - hostile numerically superior society of hateful strangers.
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on 2010-09-07 23:08:21 GMT